Good morning all
Following your comments here are:
1. Some analysis
2. Relationships to ODC
3. Suggestion
1. Some analysis
It seems that for our netters it is appropriate place for this discussion, as it is relevant for organizations. After all, it is about decision making, at organizations, politics, home, and personal. Everywhere discussing the human behavior follows decisions. As such, Quy Huy is right to raise this issue at ODC network. I will refer latter more to top executives, but, it is relevant to other managers too.
Assuming we knows what who are intellectuals, at least to differentiate from the mob, for this discussion, we may say that we differentiate people who do decision making based more on rational reasons, rather than on emotional feelings like the mob. This separation about these two groups was made long time ago by great philosophers. We also knows from psychologists and psychiatrics that in most cases people do decisions from their belly rather than from their brain. Finally, just consider the conclusions made by the Nobel Prize winner, Daniel Kahneman (who worked with Tversky) that most of us do, all the time, decision mistakes due to our limitations as human being, such as emotional assumptions about how the world works.
2. Relationship to ODC
RE organizations: from my consulting experience, working with top executives CEO, VPs, Board directors, etc., they all make decisions based more on emotions rather than decisions based on rational logic...This is true for corporate strategy decisions (corporate investments, M&A, corporate resource sharing, efforts and processes to analyze and capture synergy potential, etc.), as well as for competitive strategy, changes in organizational culture, etc. And, many still claims that important part of their decisions are based on...intuition.
Yes, intellectual as well as top executives (not all are intellectuals) need learning. Thus, during executive workshops, in organizations, or in Industrial Associations, chamber of commerce, etc. we are working among other things (such as quality decision making processes) on the most common decision making mistakes (from Hubris, to intuition, and many more). All of us, especially intellectuals, need some awareness, skills and processes to identify the assumptions and emotions, during decision making processes.
Final note, I find that what differentiate successful consulting from those that were found unsuccessful, is the ability to make emotional contacts with top executives...as you know it starts from rapport, building trust, develop "chemistry" in relations with them, etc.
3. Suggestion
In sum, I suggest that those who are interested, can take the challenge to create a program that makes decision makers at any place more rational rather than emotional. This also can make a change at the mob.
Prof. Yaakov Weber
1. Director, Research Unit
School of Business Administration
College of Management
Rishon Lezion, Israel
2. President, EMRBI
EuroMed Research Business Institute
www.emrbi.com
From: Organization Development and Change Listserv [mailto:ODC-L@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG] On Behalf Of Darlene Alexander-Houle
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 7:19 AM
To: ODC-L@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
Subject: Re: Why the majority of intellectual elites fail to predict Brexit and Trump: an inbreeding mindset
Quy Huy posts an interesting discussion opportunity for ODC and it is notable that Rob and Sonja offer a perspective from a member outside the USA and within.
Just returned from Decision Sciences Institute's annual meeting and found insight from a half-dozen or so papers on different aspects of the USA 2016 election, with some of them from authors outside the USA.
Characteristic of most of Trump's rhetoric in his campaign was a false assumption of 'taking the high road' or nasty, falsely assuming he knows (best), whether based upon fact or personal perspective.
Our humanity surfaces, and most importantly, illustrates for us the unpredictable challenge in OD. Historical rocks are so easily thrown at any country but we can appreciate the honest worldwide interest (worry) and insight on what happened (went wrong?) which offers potential for a way forward.
Regards,
Darlene
Darlene J. Alexander-Houle
HP Retired, UoP Adjunct, Determined Financial Planning
From: Organization Development and Change Listserv [mailto:ODC-L@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG] On Behalf Of Bill Cooke
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 2:54 PM
To: ODC-L@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG
Subject: Re: Why the majority of intellectual elites fail to predict Brexit and Trump: an inbreeding mindset
This certainly isn't tbe place for ignorant nonsense like this oblivious to the ethics of the founders of our field.
If the AoM is in truth the US AoM that is one thing. Otherwise if the AoM considers itself international remember the USA has been a racial slave state for more of its history that it hasn't. None of your founders were of African descent. Washington owned human beings as commodities. That is repellent. The electoral college was established on a basis which enabled the preservation of the enslavement of people of African descent as slaves. Here is a link from Time magazine on this
http://time.com/4558510/electoral-college-history-slavery/
As it is there are two defining features of democracy. First, universal suffrage. Second the one with the most votes wins. Does the USA qualify on either count? Given an OD ethic is a belief in the scientific superiority of democracy, this matters.
And are ODC colleagues who are Muslim Gay and/or UnAmerican by definition, guaranteed safe passage at the next AoM meeting in Atlanta?
Peace and love
Bill
On 21 Nov 2016 20:24, "Davison, Rob" <rbd@ku.edu> wrote:
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> From: Organization Development and Change Listserv [mailto:ODC-L@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG] On Behalf Of Sonja Sackmann
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> Von: Organization Development and Change Listserv [mailto:ODC-L@AOMLISTS.AOM.ORG] Im Auftrag von HUY Quy
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> I post this link with the hope of stimulating a rich debate on whether and how the intellectual elites should be re-educated.
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