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OD: Back from the Dead?

  • 1.  OD: Back from the Dead?

    Posted 04-03-2016 22:38
    It's not just you, David!  

    I have witnessed the same trend, and I am curious as to how this year's AOM sessions will address this trend.  It is interesting to me how quickly (or NOT) academics respond to something that reoccurs in practice.  In a more sterile/generic preparation of PhDs in recent years, how do we, indeed, provide talent not only for the industry pipeline but also for the research that needs to continually feed and be fed by the profession...

    Are there any PhD programs that are truly tackling the "meat" of OD as currently practiced or conceived in practitioner conferences?  

    Are we doing a disservice to the profession by teaching our students to be pragmatic and go for the Organizational Behavior, Strategy, or another mainstream concentration?

    If OD is back from the dead, who amongst the living are going to champion its cause?

    Puzzled in Los Angeles,

    Andre



    On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 12:25 AM, David Grant <david.grant@griffith.edu.au> wrote:
    Is it just me or has there been a proliferation in the number of positions advertised over the last year or so with the term "Organization Development" in the title – especially by major firms?  It wasn't so long ago that such jobs were rarely, if ever, seen, suggesting OD was perceived as either irrelevant or outdated in contemporary organizations. It appeared that many of the well known OD diagnostic tools and interventions had been discarded or had been appropriated under the more generic term of "organisational change" and were being practiced by line managers; both of these scenarios making the need for in-house OD specialists redundant and minimalising the work opportunities for external OD consultants.

    The increase in the number of OD jobs advertised is a phenomenon apparent in the US, Europe and the Asia-Pacific region. There also appears to have been an increasing interest in the area from professional bodies such as the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development in the UK, while several new OD-related communities of practice such as Do OD (for UK health professionals) appear to have sprung up.

    What's going on? Is OD back from the dead?  It's not clear. Is what is being expected of those in these new roles something that adheres to the traditional humanistic values of OD or is the resurgence simply linked to something like say, the war for talent, or a basic need for organisations to find new ways for HR functions to improve the bottom line? My sneaking suspicion is, to borrow a famous phrase, that "it's OD Jim, but not as we know it". And if what is now required is a form of genuine OD one has to wonder whether there is a sufficient pipeline of adequately trained talent available to practice it.

    I'm interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this. There will be a couple of sessions on the ODC program at this year's AoM meeting about the current state of, and future directions for, OD. The kind of issues I'm raising here will feed into these.




  • 2.  OD: Back from the Dead?

    Posted 04-05-2016 01:01
    Interesting post David. I admit that OD has dropped off my radar screen to a large extent. While it is something that I discuss with my Exec MBA class, it does not seem to feature in student projects or dissertations. It seemed to me that it was in something of a downward cycle – not mentioned by employers nor prospective employees nor, increasingly from what I could see, by academics writing in the major journals. That said, I am only one data point so it would be interesting to see if others' experiences are different. It would also be good to pick up an understanding of what is happening around the world. If there is a resurgence in interest in OD, which there appears to be, is it particularly prominent in the US or Europe or Asia or Australasia? Or are there disciplines (e.g., healthcare?) that are driving this renewed interest? And as you point out, is it an OD that has morphed into something with qualitatively different characteristics, and if so, what are these, and why have they emerged?

    This strikes me as being an important issue for our profession. Thanks very much for raising it in this forum – would love to see this list develop as a medium for such debate.
    Cheers,
    John
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    Date: Saturday, 2 April 2016 08:25
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    Subject: OD: Back from the Dead?

    Is it just me or has there been a proliferation in the number of positions advertised over the last year or so with the term "Organization Development" in the title – especially by major firms?  It wasn't so long ago that such jobs were rarely, if ever, seen, suggesting OD was perceived as either irrelevant or outdated in contemporary organizations. It appeared that many of the well known OD diagnostic tools and interventions had been discarded or had been appropriated under the more generic term of "organisational change" and were being practiced by line managers; both of these scenarios making the need for in-house OD specialists redundant and minimalising the work opportunities for external OD consultants.  
    The increase in the number of OD jobs advertised is a phenomenon apparent in the US, Europe and the Asia-Pacific region. There also appears to have been an increasing interest in the area from professional bodies such as the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development in the UK, while several new OD-related communities of practice such as Do OD (for UK health professionals) appear to have sprung up.

    What's going on? Is OD back from the dead?  It's not clear. Is what is being expected of those in these new roles something that adheres to the traditional humanistic values of OD or is the resurgence simply linked to something like say, the war for talent, or a basic need for organisations to find new ways for HR functions to improve the bottom line? My sneaking suspicion is, to borrow a famous phrase, that "it's OD Jim, but not as we know it". And if what is now required is a form of genuine OD one has to wonder whether there is a sufficient pipeline of adequately trained talent available to practice it.
    I'm interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this. There will be a couple of sessions on the ODC program at this year's AoM meeting about the current state of, and future directions for, OD. The kind of issues I'm raising here will feed into these.
      



  • 3.  OD: Back from the Dead?

    Posted 04-06-2016 00:58

    Thanks John. I know OD did drop off the radar at many institutions – indeed I had to fight to name my PG course Org. Development and Change when I first put the proposal forward for approval at Sydney in 2000.

     

    It will be interesting to see if OD starts to re-emerge on teaching programs more widely and more explicitly. This may in part be driven by the HR accrediting bodies in the US, UK and Australia starting to push for Org. Change focused courses to be a core unit of study in order for HR programs to gain accreditation. It would be likely that at least some courses in Org. Change will consider OD.

     

    Cheers

     

    David

     

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    Sent: Tuesday, 5 April 2016 3:01 PM
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    Subject: Re: OD: Back from the Dead?

     

    Interesting post David. I admit that OD has dropped off my radar screen to a large extent. While it is something that I discuss with my Exec MBA class, it does not seem to feature in student projects or dissertations. It seemed to me that it was in something of a downward cycle – not mentioned by employers nor prospective employees nor, increasingly from what I could see, by academics writing in the major journals. That said, I am only one data point so it would be interesting to see if others' experiences are different. It would also be good to pick up an understanding of what is happening around the world. If there is a resurgence in interest in OD, which there appears to be, is it particularly prominent in the US or Europe or Asia or Australasia? Or are there disciplines (e.g., healthcare?) that are driving this renewed interest? And as you point out, is it an OD that has morphed into something with qualitatively different characteristics, and if so, what are these, and why have they emerged?

     

    This strikes me as being an important issue for our profession. Thanks very much for raising it in this forum – would love to see this list develop as a medium for such debate.

    Cheers,

    John

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    Professor of Strategic Management & Organisation

    Co-Director, Centre for Strategic Leadership

    Director, Doctoral Programme

    University of Edinburgh Business School

    29 Buccleuch Place, Edinburgh, EH8 9JS. UK

    Tel.: +44 (0)131 651 5545 (o)

    +44 (0)7758 138971 (m)

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    From: Organization Development and Change Listserv <ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU> on behalf of David Grant <david.grant@GRIFFITH.EDU.AU>
    Reply-To: Organization Development and Change Listserv <ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU>
    Date: Saturday, 2 April 2016 08:25
    To: "ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU" <ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU>
    Subject: OD: Back from the Dead?

     

    Is it just me or has there been a proliferation in the number of positions advertised over the last year or so with the term "Organization Development" in the title – especially by major firms?  It wasn't so long ago that such jobs were rarely, if ever, seen, suggesting OD was perceived as either irrelevant or outdated in contemporary organizations. It appeared that many of the well known OD diagnostic tools and interventions had been discarded or had been appropriated under the more generic term of "organisational change" and were being practiced by line managers; both of these scenarios making the need for in-house OD specialists redundant and minimalising the work opportunities for external OD consultants.  

    The increase in the number of OD jobs advertised is a phenomenon apparent in the US, Europe and the Asia-Pacific region. There also appears to have been an increasing interest in the area from professional bodies such as the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development in the UK, while several new OD-related communities of practice such as Do OD (for UK health professionals) appear to have sprung up.

     

    What's going on? Is OD back from the dead?  It's not clear. Is what is being expected of those in these new roles something that adheres to the traditional humanistic values of OD or is the resurgence simply linked to something like say, the war for talent, or a basic need for organisations to find new ways for HR functions to improve the bottom line? My sneaking suspicion is, to borrow a famous phrase, that "it's OD Jim, but not as we know it". And if what is now required is a form of genuine OD one has to wonder whether there is a sufficient pipeline of adequately trained talent available to practice it.

    I'm interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this. There will be a couple of sessions on the ODC program at this year's AoM meeting about the current state of, and future directions for, OD. The kind of issues I'm raising here will feed into these.

      

     



  • 4.  OD: Back from the Dead?

    Posted 04-06-2016 06:47
    Dear colleagues,

    This is fascinating, and of course vis-a-vis Ann-Clare's great piece, depends where you look. There is a kind of qualitative review in Human Relations, called 'The Past Present and Future of OD' here http://hum.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/07/04/0018726712450058 (forgive the plug)

    I think the answer to David's question boils down a bit to the old chestnuts 'what is OD'.If, for example we say a humanist ethos is a defining feature, then I suspect Terance Wolfe's point is well made, and it is not back in that form.

    Likewise OD in the terms of classic definitions- eg French and Bell, with a focus on culture, individuals groups and team, systematic, underpinned by action research, and the presence of a change agent and so on, I think is rare in that complete form still.

    However, I teach OD on MBAs as a kind of moment and/or field of work where much of what we now call change management comes together.  The elements of OD and approaches first derived by its pioneers are very common still. Many change processes sold by consultants or our colleagues can be seen to directly derive from action research, consciously or otherwise, or from the model first set out in Lippitt et al's Dynamics of Planned Change. There are still people who do action research in organizations.

    Likewise there is a lot of teambuilding about, couched in terms of culture and organizational effectiveness. Also influential (although I am not greatly impressed) is Thrift's work on Fast Capitalism, and within this the turn to 'soft management', that is the management of cultural/attitudinal aspects of the workforce. Thrift directly connects this back to Lewin, very shoddy history IMHO, but nonetheless, if it is real, this turn is underpinned, I would argue, with methods first combined in OD

    So, in a way we might even argue that the OD principle that its methods and techniques should not remain the property of its external experts, but should belong to and be used by those within the organization, might even have come to pass socially. If OD is nowhere these days, it is also everywhere. Maybe.

    Bill

    On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 5:58 AM, David Grant <david.grant@griffith.edu.au> wrote:

    Thanks John. I know OD did drop off the radar at many institutions – indeed I had to fight to name my PG course Org. Development and Change when I first put the proposal forward for approval at Sydney in 2000.

     

    It will be interesting to see if OD starts to re-emerge on teaching programs more widely and more explicitly. This may in part be driven by the HR accrediting bodies in the US, UK and Australia starting to push for Org. Change focused courses to be a core unit of study in order for HR programs to gain accreditation. It would be likely that at least some courses in Org. Change will consider OD.

     

    Cheers

     

    David

     

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    Griffith Business School
    Griffith University | Nathan campus | QLD 4111 | Business 1 (N50) Room 0.09
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    From: Organization Development and Change Listserv [mailto:ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of AMIS John
    Sent: Tuesday, 5 April 2016 3:01 PM
    To: ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: OD: Back from the Dead?

     

    Interesting post David. I admit that OD has dropped off my radar screen to a large extent. While it is something that I discuss with my Exec MBA class, it does not seem to feature in student projects or dissertations. It seemed to me that it was in something of a downward cycle – not mentioned by employers nor prospective employees nor, increasingly from what I could see, by academics writing in the major journals. That said, I am only one data point so it would be interesting to see if others' experiences are different. It would also be good to pick up an understanding of what is happening around the world. If there is a resurgence in interest in OD, which there appears to be, is it particularly prominent in the US or Europe or Asia or Australasia? Or are there disciplines (e.g., healthcare?) that are driving this renewed interest? And as you point out, is it an OD that has morphed into something with qualitatively different characteristics, and if so, what are these, and why have they emerged?

     

    This strikes me as being an important issue for our profession. Thanks very much for raising it in this forum – would love to see this list develop as a medium for such debate.

    Cheers,

    John

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    Professor of Strategic Management & Organisation

    Co-Director, Centre for Strategic Leadership

    Director, Doctoral Programme

    University of Edinburgh Business School

    29 Buccleuch Place, Edinburgh, EH8 9JS. UK

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    From: Organization Development and Change Listserv <ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU> on behalf of David Grant <david.grant@GRIFFITH.EDU.AU>
    Reply-To: Organization Development and Change Listserv <ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU>
    Date: Saturday, 2 April 2016 08:25
    To: "ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU" <ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU>
    Subject: OD: Back from the Dead?

     

    Is it just me or has there been a proliferation in the number of positions advertised over the last year or so with the term "Organization Development" in the title – especially by major firms?  It wasn't so long ago that such jobs were rarely, if ever, seen, suggesting OD was perceived as either irrelevant or outdated in contemporary organizations. It appeared that many of the well known OD diagnostic tools and interventions had been discarded or had been appropriated under the more generic term of "organisational change" and were being practiced by line managers; both of these scenarios making the need for in-house OD specialists redundant and minimalising the work opportunities for external OD consultants.  

    The increase in the number of OD jobs advertised is a phenomenon apparent in the US, Europe and the Asia-Pacific region. There also appears to have been an increasing interest in the area from professional bodies such as the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development in the UK, while several new OD-related communities of practice such as Do OD (for UK health professionals) appear to have sprung up.

     

    What's going on? Is OD back from the dead?  It's not clear. Is what is being expected of those in these new roles something that adheres to the traditional humanistic values of OD or is the resurgence simply linked to something like say, the war for talent, or a basic need for organisations to find new ways for HR functions to improve the bottom line? My sneaking suspicion is, to borrow a famous phrase, that "it's OD Jim, but not as we know it". And if what is now required is a form of genuine OD one has to wonder whether there is a sufficient pipeline of adequately trained talent available to practice it.

    I'm interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this. There will be a couple of sessions on the ODC program at this year's AoM meeting about the current state of, and future directions for, OD. The kind of issues I'm raising here will feed into these.

      

     




  • 5.  OD: Back from the Dead?

    Posted 04-06-2016 11:07
    Greetings,

    Interesting perspectives, resources and feedback - thanks all.

    Is OD back from the dead?  Not quite yet, but maybe, depending on the purpose for which we develop organizations.

    In some instances, the resurfacing of OD in HR circles seems couched alongside training functions in organizations, linking personal (and leadership) development to broader performance improvement initiatives.  OD is back because staff development is trendy again.  In another instance, OD seems to be housed with knowledge management and organizational learning, helping to develop capabilities to use business data and personnel experiences to inform required changes in processes, behaviors, and strategies.

    I was recently doing some very informal research where over the course of 1 month I tracked the number of new job announcements in a certain industry and kept a record of how many different types of organizational expressions of the purpose for these positions were used.  Fascinating to see that less than 5% of new jobs (n = 600) were OD related and fewer yet used OD perspectives AND language on organizational meaning in job announcements - words like 'add value', 'make a difference', 'contribute to change', 'culture shift' - and that most OD-related roles had something to do with training and capacity building, primarily, and not much on identity, systems or endurance, for example.

    OD is back because HRM (and learning management systems) is back, but it remains dead where the real meaning of work remains elusive - an area of research and teaching I am keen to dive deeply into. 

    Stuart


    On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Bill Cooke III <drbill.cooke@gmail.com> wrote:
    Dear colleagues,

    This is fascinating, and of course vis-a-vis Ann-Clare's great piece, depends where you look. There is a kind of qualitative review in Human Relations, called 'The Past Present and Future of OD' here http://hum.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/07/04/0018726712450058 (forgive the plug)

    I think the answer to David's question boils down a bit to the old chestnuts 'what is OD'.If, for example we say a humanist ethos is a defining feature, then I suspect Terance Wolfe's point is well made, and it is not back in that form.

    Likewise OD in the terms of classic definitions- eg French and Bell, with a focus on culture, individuals groups and team, systematic, underpinned by action research, and the presence of a change agent and so on, I think is rare in that complete form still.

    However, I teach OD on MBAs as a kind of moment and/or field of work where much of what we now call change management comes together.  The elements of OD and approaches first derived by its pioneers are very common still. Many change processes sold by consultants or our colleagues can be seen to directly derive from action research, consciously or otherwise, or from the model first set out in Lippitt et al's Dynamics of Planned Change. There are still people who do action research in organizations.

    Likewise there is a lot of teambuilding about, couched in terms of culture and organizational effectiveness. Also influential (although I am not greatly impressed) is Thrift's work on Fast Capitalism, and within this the turn to 'soft management', that is the management of cultural/attitudinal aspects of the workforce. Thrift directly connects this back to Lewin, very shoddy history IMHO, but nonetheless, if it is real, this turn is underpinned, I would argue, with methods first combined in OD

    So, in a way we might even argue that the OD principle that its methods and techniques should not remain the property of its external experts, but should belong to and be used by those within the organization, might even have come to pass socially. If OD is nowhere these days, it is also everywhere. Maybe.

    Bill

    On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 5:58 AM, David Grant <david.grant@griffith.edu.au> wrote:

    Thanks John. I know OD did drop off the radar at many institutions – indeed I had to fight to name my PG course Org. Development and Change when I first put the proposal forward for approval at Sydney in 2000.

     

    It will be interesting to see if OD starts to re-emerge on teaching programs more widely and more explicitly. This may in part be driven by the HR accrediting bodies in the US, UK and Australia starting to push for Org. Change focused courses to be a core unit of study in order for HR programs to gain accreditation. It would be likely that at least some courses in Org. Change will consider OD.

     

    Cheers

     

    David

     

    Professor David Grant | Pro Vice Chancellor (Business)

    Griffith Business School
    Griffith University | Nathan campus | QLD 4111 | Business 1 (N50) Room 0.09
    T +61 7 373 53875 | F +61 7 373 55466 | E david.grant@griffith.edu.au

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    From: Organization Development and Change Listserv [mailto:ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of AMIS John
    Sent: Tuesday, 5 April 2016 3:01 PM
    To: ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: OD: Back from the Dead?

     

    Interesting post David. I admit that OD has dropped off my radar screen to a large extent. While it is something that I discuss with my Exec MBA class, it does not seem to feature in student projects or dissertations. It seemed to me that it was in something of a downward cycle – not mentioned by employers nor prospective employees nor, increasingly from what I could see, by academics writing in the major journals. That said, I am only one data point so it would be interesting to see if others' experiences are different. It would also be good to pick up an understanding of what is happening around the world. If there is a resurgence in interest in OD, which there appears to be, is it particularly prominent in the US or Europe or Asia or Australasia? Or are there disciplines (e.g., healthcare?) that are driving this renewed interest? And as you point out, is it an OD that has morphed into something with qualitatively different characteristics, and if so, what are these, and why have they emerged?

     

    This strikes me as being an important issue for our profession. Thanks very much for raising it in this forum – would love to see this list develop as a medium for such debate.

    Cheers,

    John

    -------------------------------------------------------------------

    John Amis

    Professor of Strategic Management & Organisation

    Co-Director, Centre for Strategic Leadership

    Director, Doctoral Programme

    University of Edinburgh Business School

    29 Buccleuch Place, Edinburgh, EH8 9JS. UK

    Skype:  john_amis

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    From: Organization Development and Change Listserv <ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU> on behalf of David Grant <david.grant@GRIFFITH.EDU.AU>
    Reply-To: Organization Development and Change Listserv <ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU>
    Date: Saturday, 2 April 2016 08:25
    To: "ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU" <ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU>
    Subject: OD: Back from the Dead?

     

    Is it just me or has there been a proliferation in the number of positions advertised over the last year or so with the term "Organization Development" in the title – especially by major firms?  It wasn't so long ago that such jobs were rarely, if ever, seen, suggesting OD was perceived as either irrelevant or outdated in contemporary organizations. It appeared that many of the well known OD diagnostic tools and interventions had been discarded or had been appropriated under the more generic term of "organisational change" and were being practiced by line managers; both of these scenarios making the need for in-house OD specialists redundant and minimalising the work opportunities for external OD consultants.  

    The increase in the number of OD jobs advertised is a phenomenon apparent in the US, Europe and the Asia-Pacific region. There also appears to have been an increasing interest in the area from professional bodies such as the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development in the UK, while several new OD-related communities of practice such as Do OD (for UK health professionals) appear to have sprung up.

     

    What's going on? Is OD back from the dead?  It's not clear. Is what is being expected of those in these new roles something that adheres to the traditional humanistic values of OD or is the resurgence simply linked to something like say, the war for talent, or a basic need for organisations to find new ways for HR functions to improve the bottom line? My sneaking suspicion is, to borrow a famous phrase, that "it's OD Jim, but not as we know it". And if what is now required is a form of genuine OD one has to wonder whether there is a sufficient pipeline of adequately trained talent available to practice it.

    I'm interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this. There will be a couple of sessions on the ODC program at this year's AoM meeting about the current state of, and future directions for, OD. The kind of issues I'm raising here will feed into these.

      

     





  • 6.  OD: Back from the Dead?

    Posted 04-09-2016 22:00

    Thanks Stuart

     

    Great to see that you have done some research into what lies behind OD job ads. and thanks very much for sharing that with us.

     

    Your findings do seem to confirm some of the observations made by others who have responded to this post – especially re: the link to HR and the emphasis on capacity building / training and development. Similarly, I also wonder whether the rise in interest in talent management might also be a factor at play here.

     

    Cheers

     

    David

     

     

    Professor David Grant | Pro Vice Chancellor (Business)

    Griffith Business School
    Griffith University | Nathan campus | QLD 4111 | Business 1 (N50) Room 0.09
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    From: Organization Development and Change Listserv [mailto:ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Stuart Belle
    Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 1:07 AM
    To: ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: OD: Back from the Dead?

     

    Greetings,

     

    Interesting perspectives, resources and feedback - thanks all.

     

    Is OD back from the dead?  Not quite yet, but maybe, depending on the purpose for which we develop organizations.

     

    In some instances, the resurfacing of OD in HR circles seems couched alongside training functions in organizations, linking personal (and leadership) development to broader performance improvement initiatives.  OD is back because staff development is trendy again.  In another instance, OD seems to be housed with knowledge management and organizational learning, helping to develop capabilities to use business data and personnel experiences to inform required changes in processes, behaviors, and strategies.

     

    I was recently doing some very informal research where over the course of 1 month I tracked the number of new job announcements in a certain industry and kept a record of how many different types of organizational expressions of the purpose for these positions were used.  Fascinating to see that less than 5% of new jobs (n = 600) were OD related and fewer yet used OD perspectives AND language on organizational meaning in job announcements - words like 'add value', 'make a difference', 'contribute to change', 'culture shift' - and that most OD-related roles had something to do with training and capacity building, primarily, and not much on identity, systems or endurance, for example.

     

    OD is back because HRM (and learning management systems) is back, but it remains dead where the real meaning of work remains elusive - an area of research and teaching I am keen to dive deeply into. 

     

    Stuart

     

     

    On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Bill Cooke III <drbill.cooke@gmail.com> wrote:

    Dear colleagues,

    This is fascinating, and of course vis-a-vis Ann-Clare's great piece, depends where you look. There is a kind of qualitative review in Human Relations, called 'The Past Present and Future of OD' here http://hum.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/07/04/0018726712450058 (forgive the plug)

    I think the answer to David's question boils down a bit to the old chestnuts 'what is OD'.If, for example we say a humanist ethos is a defining feature, then I suspect Terance Wolfe's point is well made, and it is not back in that form.

    Likewise OD in the terms of classic definitions- eg French and Bell, with a focus on culture, individuals groups and team, systematic, underpinned by action research, and the presence of a change agent and so on, I think is rare in that complete form still.

    However, I teach OD on MBAs as a kind of moment and/or field of work where much of what we now call change management comes together.  The elements of OD and approaches first derived by its pioneers are very common still. Many change processes sold by consultants or our colleagues can be seen to directly derive from action research, consciously or otherwise, or from the model first set out in Lippitt et al's Dynamics of Planned Change. There are still people who do action research in organizations.

    Likewise there is a lot of teambuilding about, couched in terms of culture and organizational effectiveness. Also influential (although I am not greatly impressed) is Thrift's work on Fast Capitalism, and within this the turn to 'soft management', that is the management of cultural/attitudinal aspects of the workforce. Thrift directly connects this back to Lewin, very shoddy history IMHO, but nonetheless, if it is real, this turn is underpinned, I would argue, with methods first combined in OD

    So, in a way we might even argue that the OD principle that its methods and techniques should not remain the property of its external experts, but should belong to and be used by those within the organization, might even have come to pass socially. If OD is nowhere these days, it is also everywhere. Maybe.

    Bill

     

    On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 5:58 AM, David Grant <david.grant@griffith.edu.au> wrote:

    Thanks John. I know OD did drop off the radar at many institutions – indeed I had to fight to name my PG course Org. Development and Change when I first put the proposal forward for approval at Sydney in 2000.

     

    It will be interesting to see if OD starts to re-emerge on teaching programs more widely and more explicitly. This may in part be driven by the HR accrediting bodies in the US, UK and Australia starting to push for Org. Change focused courses to be a core unit of study in order for HR programs to gain accreditation. It would be likely that at least some courses in Org. Change will consider OD.

     

    Cheers

     

    David

     

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    Interesting post David. I admit that OD has dropped off my radar screen to a large extent. While it is something that I discuss with my Exec MBA class, it does not seem to feature in student projects or dissertations. It seemed to me that it was in something of a downward cycle – not mentioned by employers nor prospective employees nor, increasingly from what I could see, by academics writing in the major journals. That said, I am only one data point so it would be interesting to see if others' experiences are different. It would also be good to pick up an understanding of what is happening around the world. If there is a resurgence in interest in OD, which there appears to be, is it particularly prominent in the US or Europe or Asia or Australasia? Or are there disciplines (e.g., healthcare?) that are driving this renewed interest? And as you point out, is it an OD that has morphed into something with qualitatively different characteristics, and if so, what are these, and why have they emerged?

     

    This strikes me as being an important issue for our profession. Thanks very much for raising it in this forum – would love to see this list develop as a medium for such debate.

    Cheers,

    John

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    Subject: OD: Back from the Dead?

     

    Is it just me or has there been a proliferation in the number of positions advertised over the last year or so with the term "Organization Development" in the title – especially by major firms?  It wasn't so long ago that such jobs were rarely, if ever, seen, suggesting OD was perceived as either irrelevant or outdated in contemporary organizations. It appeared that many of the well known OD diagnostic tools and interventions had been discarded or had been appropriated under the more generic term of "organisational change" and were being practiced by line managers; both of these scenarios making the need for in-house OD specialists redundant and minimalising the work opportunities for external OD consultants.  

    The increase in the number of OD jobs advertised is a phenomenon apparent in the US, Europe and the Asia-Pacific region. There also appears to have been an increasing interest in the area from professional bodies such as the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development in the UK, while several new OD-related communities of practice such as Do OD (for UK health professionals) appear to have sprung up.

     

    What's going on? Is OD back from the dead?  It's not clear. Is what is being expected of those in these new roles something that adheres to the traditional humanistic values of OD or is the resurgence simply linked to something like say, the war for talent, or a basic need for organisations to find new ways for HR functions to improve the bottom line? My sneaking suspicion is, to borrow a famous phrase, that "it's OD Jim, but not as we know it". And if what is now required is a form of genuine OD one has to wonder whether there is a sufficient pipeline of adequately trained talent available to practice it.

    I'm interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this. There will be a couple of sessions on the ODC program at this year's AoM meeting about the current state of, and future directions for, OD. The kind of issues I'm raising here will feed into these.

      

     

     

     



  • 7.  OD: Back from the Dead?

    Posted 04-05-2016 14:54
    Sending this again.  I hope it gets through this time.


    On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 10:36 PM, Matt Minahan <matthew@minahangroup.com> wrote:
    Hello, David,

    I think it would be great if it were so.  I don't see a lot of job adverts, so I'm not observing the same phenomena that you are.

    I do think this would make for a wonderful research project for a MS in OD class . . .  or even doctoral research . . .  how has the nature and number of OD jobs advertised changed over time . . . 

    Maybe our friends at Case, or Benedictine, or St. Thomas, or Alliant or Fielding or elsewhere could raise these kinds of questions about the field and its future with their students and see if we can't start to build up a body of knowledge about the field itself, who is in it, and what we do.

    Thanks for raising this, David.

    Matt

    On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 3:25 AM, David Grant <david.grant@griffith.edu.au> wrote:
    Is it just me or has there been a proliferation in the number of positions advertised over the last year or so with the term "Organization Development" in the title – especially by major firms?  It wasn't so long ago that such jobs were rarely, if ever, seen, suggesting OD was perceived as either irrelevant or outdated in contemporary organizations. It appeared that many of the well known OD diagnostic tools and interventions had been discarded or had been appropriated under the more generic term of "organisational change" and were being practiced by line managers; both of these scenarios making the need for in-house OD specialists redundant and minimalising the work opportunities for external OD consultants.

    The increase in the number of OD jobs advertised is a phenomenon apparent in the US, Europe and the Asia-Pacific region. There also appears to have been an increasing interest in the area from professional bodies such as the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development in the UK, while several new OD-related communities of practice such as Do OD (for UK health professionals) appear to have sprung up.

    What's going on? Is OD back from the dead?  It's not clear. Is what is being expected of those in these new roles something that adheres to the traditional humanistic values of OD or is the resurgence simply linked to something like say, the war for talent, or a basic need for organisations to find new ways for HR functions to improve the bottom line? My sneaking suspicion is, to borrow a famous phrase, that "it's OD Jim, but not as we know it". And if what is now required is a form of genuine OD one has to wonder whether there is a sufficient pipeline of adequately trained talent available to practice it.

    I'm interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this. There will be a couple of sessions on the ODC program at this year's AoM meeting about the current state of, and future directions for, OD. The kind of issues I'm raising here will feed into these.




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  • 8.  OD: Back from the Dead?

    Posted 04-05-2016 17:35

    I think important unobtrusive measures of "Is OD back?" would be the following:

    ·         What are the educational requirements they are recruiting for?

    ·         What is the salary range they are recruiting for? 

     

    To me, Bachelor's degrees and <$100k would be indicators that it is not back – at least not in terms of full professional recognition and, I would dare say, not in terms of the Humanistic tradition.  I suspect (testable hypothesis) that it would take a deeply trained and self-confident practitioner to lead (i.e., engage clients) with her/his humanistic values. 

     

    Terry

     

    Terance J. Wolfe, PhD

    Associate Professor of Clinical Management and Organization

    Marshall School of Business

    University of Southern California

    Bridge Hall, 306

    3670 Trousdale Parkway

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    http://www.marshall.usc.edu/faculty/directory/terancew

     

    From: Organization Development and Change Listserv [mailto:ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Matt Minahan
    Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 11:54 AM
    To: ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: OD: Back from the Dead?

     

    Sending this again.  I hope it gets through this time.

     

     

    On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 10:36 PM, Matt Minahan <matthew@minahangroup.com> wrote:

    Hello, David,

     

    I think it would be great if it were so.  I don't see a lot of job adverts, so I'm not observing the same phenomena that you are.

     

    I do think this would make for a wonderful research project for a MS in OD class . . .  or even doctoral research . . .  how has the nature and number of OD jobs advertised changed over time . . . 

     

    Maybe our friends at Case, or Benedictine, or St. Thomas, or Alliant or Fielding or elsewhere could raise these kinds of questions about the field and its future with their students and see if we can't start to build up a body of knowledge about the field itself, who is in it, and what we do.

     

    Thanks for raising this, David.

     

    Matt

     

    On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 3:25 AM, David Grant <david.grant@griffith.edu.au> wrote:

    Is it just me or has there been a proliferation in the number of positions advertised over the last year or so with the term "Organization Development" in the title – especially by major firms?  It wasn't so long ago that such jobs were rarely, if ever, seen, suggesting OD was perceived as either irrelevant or outdated in contemporary organizations. It appeared that many of the well known OD diagnostic tools and interventions had been discarded or had been appropriated under the more generic term of "organisational change" and were being practiced by line managers; both of these scenarios making the need for in-house OD specialists redundant and minimalising the work opportunities for external OD consultants.

    The increase in the number of OD jobs advertised is a phenomenon apparent in the US, Europe and the Asia-Pacific region. There also appears to have been an increasing interest in the area from professional bodies such as the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development in the UK, while several new OD-related communities of practice such as Do OD (for UK health professionals) appear to have sprung up.

    What's going on? Is OD back from the dead?  It's not clear. Is what is being expected of those in these new roles something that adheres to the traditional humanistic values of OD or is the resurgence simply linked to something like say, the war for talent, or a basic need for organisations to find new ways for HR functions to improve the bottom line? My sneaking suspicion is, to borrow a famous phrase, that "it's OD Jim, but not as we know it". And if what is now required is a form of genuine OD one has to wonder whether there is a sufficient pipeline of adequately trained talent available to practice it.

    I'm interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this. There will be a couple of sessions on the ODC program at this year's AoM meeting about the current state of, and future directions for, OD. The kind of issues I'm raising here will feed into these.



     

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    "The chief lesson I have learned in a long life is that the only way you can make a man trustworthy is to trust him; and the surest way to make him untrustworthy is to distrust him." -- Henry L. Stimson


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    "The chief lesson I have learned in a long life is that the only way you can make a man trustworthy is to trust him; and the surest way to make him untrustworthy is to distrust him." -- Henry L. Stimson


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  • 9.  OD: Back from the Dead?

    Posted 04-05-2016 18:55

    Thanks Terry – interesting possible measures. I see the link between pay levels and professional recognition, but less so with humanistic traditions.  My thinking is that they may be paying for highly educated individuals, but not necessarily those with the kind of values and training that would be indicative of an understanding of OD.

     

    Cheers

     

    David

     

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    I think important unobtrusive measures of "Is OD back?" would be the following:

    ·         What are the educational requirements they are recruiting for?

    ·         What is the salary range they are recruiting for? 

     

    To me, Bachelor's degrees and <$100k would be indicators that it is not back – at least not in terms of full professional recognition and, I would dare say, not in terms of the Humanistic tradition.  I suspect (testable hypothesis) that it would take a deeply trained and self-confident practitioner to lead (i.e., engage clients) with her/his humanistic values. 

     

    Terry

     

    Terance J. Wolfe, PhD

    Associate Professor of Clinical Management and Organization

    Marshall School of Business

    University of Southern California

    Bridge Hall, 306

    3670 Trousdale Parkway

    Los Angeles, CA 90089-0808

    213.740.0765 (phone)

    213.740.3582 (fax)

    terancew@marshall.usc.edu

    http://www.marshall.usc.edu/faculty/directory/terancew

     

    From: Organization Development and Change Listserv [mailto:ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Matt Minahan
    Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 11:54 AM
    To: ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: OD: Back from the Dead?

     

    Sending this again.  I hope it gets through this time.

     

     

    On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 10:36 PM, Matt Minahan <matthew@minahangroup.com> wrote:

    Hello, David,

     

    I think it would be great if it were so.  I don't see a lot of job adverts, so I'm not observing the same phenomena that you are.

     

    I do think this would make for a wonderful research project for a MS in OD class . . .  or even doctoral research . . .  how has the nature and number of OD jobs advertised changed over time . . . 

     

    Maybe our friends at Case, or Benedictine, or St. Thomas, or Alliant or Fielding or elsewhere could raise these kinds of questions about the field and its future with their students and see if we can't start to build up a body of knowledge about the field itself, who is in it, and what we do.

     

    Thanks for raising this, David.

     

    Matt

     

    On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 3:25 AM, David Grant <david.grant@griffith.edu.au> wrote:

    Is it just me or has there been a proliferation in the number of positions advertised over the last year or so with the term "Organization Development" in the title – especially by major firms?  It wasn't so long ago that such jobs were rarely, if ever, seen, suggesting OD was perceived as either irrelevant or outdated in contemporary organizations. It appeared that many of the well known OD diagnostic tools and interventions had been discarded or had been appropriated under the more generic term of "organisational change" and were being practiced by line managers; both of these scenarios making the need for in-house OD specialists redundant and minimalising the work opportunities for external OD consultants.

    The increase in the number of OD jobs advertised is a phenomenon apparent in the US, Europe and the Asia-Pacific region. There also appears to have been an increasing interest in the area from professional bodies such as the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development in the UK, while several new OD-related communities of practice such as Do OD (for UK health professionals) appear to have sprung up.

    What's going on? Is OD back from the dead?  It's not clear. Is what is being expected of those in these new roles something that adheres to the traditional humanistic values of OD or is the resurgence simply linked to something like say, the war for talent, or a basic need for organisations to find new ways for HR functions to improve the bottom line? My sneaking suspicion is, to borrow a famous phrase, that "it's OD Jim, but not as we know it". And if what is now required is a form of genuine OD one has to wonder whether there is a sufficient pipeline of adequately trained talent available to practice it.

    I'm interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this. There will be a couple of sessions on the ODC program at this year's AoM meeting about the current state of, and future directions for, OD. The kind of issues I'm raising here will feed into these.



     

    --



    "While there is a lower class, I am in it. While there is a criminal class, I am of it. While there is a soul in prison, I am not free."   --  Eugene Debs

    "The chief lesson I have learned in a long life is that the only way you can make a man trustworthy is to trust him; and the surest way to make him untrustworthy is to distrust him." -- Henry L. Stimson


    _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/

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    --



    "While there is a lower class, I am in it. While there is a criminal class, I am of it. While there is a soul in prison, I am not free."   --  Eugene Debs

    "The chief lesson I have learned in a long life is that the only way you can make a man trustworthy is to trust him; and the surest way to make him untrustworthy is to distrust him." -- Henry L. Stimson


    _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/

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  • 10.  OD: Back from the Dead?

    Posted 04-05-2016 18:48

    Thanks Matt.

     

    Yes, we probably do need some more substantive evidence of this trend and a closer look at what these roles actually encompass. The only work I'm aware of that resonates with several  of the issues we're raising here is a study by Anne Clare Gillon and her colleagues:

     

    Organisation development in HRM: a longitudinal study contrasting evolutionary trends between the UK and USA ,Anne Clare Gillon , Ashley Braganza , Sharon Williams , Catherine McCauley-Smith, The International Journal of Human Resource Management,  Vol. 25, Iss. 7, 2014

    Weblink:  http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09585192.2013.815252#.VwBdhTZJmHs

    Anne and her collegeus' work raises issues that are important to our Division and it would be terrific if we built on it along the lines you suggest.

     

    Cheers

    David

     

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    From: Organization Development and Change Listserv [mailto:ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Matt Minahan
    Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2016 4:54 AM
    To: ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: OD: Back from the Dead?

     

    Sending this again.  I hope it gets through this time.

     

     

    On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 10:36 PM, Matt Minahan <matthew@minahangroup.com> wrote:

    Hello, David,

     

    I think it would be great if it were so.  I don't see a lot of job adverts, so I'm not observing the same phenomena that you are.

     

    I do think this would make for a wonderful research project for a MS in OD class . . .  or even doctoral research . . .  how has the nature and number of OD jobs advertised changed over time . . . 

     

    Maybe our friends at Case, or Benedictine, or St. Thomas, or Alliant or Fielding or elsewhere could raise these kinds of questions about the field and its future with their students and see if we can't start to build up a body of knowledge about the field itself, who is in it, and what we do.

     

    Thanks for raising this, David.

     

    Matt

     

    On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 3:25 AM, David Grant <david.grant@griffith.edu.au> wrote:

    Is it just me or has there been a proliferation in the number of positions advertised over the last year or so with the term "Organization Development" in the title – especially by major firms?  It wasn't so long ago that such jobs were rarely, if ever, seen, suggesting OD was perceived as either irrelevant or outdated in contemporary organizations. It appeared that many of the well known OD diagnostic tools and interventions had been discarded or had been appropriated under the more generic term of "organisational change" and were being practiced by line managers; both of these scenarios making the need for in-house OD specialists redundant and minimalising the work opportunities for external OD consultants.

    The increase in the number of OD jobs advertised is a phenomenon apparent in the US, Europe and the Asia-Pacific region. There also appears to have been an increasing interest in the area from professional bodies such as the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development in the UK, while several new OD-related communities of practice such as Do OD (for UK health professionals) appear to have sprung up.

    What's going on? Is OD back from the dead?  It's not clear. Is what is being expected of those in these new roles something that adheres to the traditional humanistic values of OD or is the resurgence simply linked to something like say, the war for talent, or a basic need for organisations to find new ways for HR functions to improve the bottom line? My sneaking suspicion is, to borrow a famous phrase, that "it's OD Jim, but not as we know it". And if what is now required is a form of genuine OD one has to wonder whether there is a sufficient pipeline of adequately trained talent available to practice it.

    I'm interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this. There will be a couple of sessions on the ODC program at this year's AoM meeting about the current state of, and future directions for, OD. The kind of issues I'm raising here will feed into these.



     

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  • 11.  OD: Back from the Dead?

    Posted 04-05-2016 22:26

    David,

    Take a look at the attached article.  This may be a piece of "substantive evidence".

    We have presented on this subject several times at the annual meeting  with considerable interest expressed.  Also we  have just published a book on the subject.   Our view of the decline in the field is that the early change process models failed to follow the scientific process. As a result, change interventions were not based on evidence of need for change. Result, 60 - 70 % failure rates.  Organizations do not like change projects to fail.

    I will send you a copy of the book if you are interested or you can order a free desk copy.

    Glenn

    Glenn H. Varney PhD


  • 12.  OD: Back from the Dead?

    Posted 04-06-2016 00:50

    Thanks for engaging Glenn

     

    This is very helpful in explaining the recent/past decline in the field. I guess the question it raises for me is whether the resurgence in the term OD that is being expressed through the new roles we are seeing being advertised reflects a renewed emphasis on, and recognition of, the kinds of scientific approaches you refer to.


    Cheers

     

    David

     

     

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    David,

     

    Take a look at the attached article.  This may be a piece of "substantive evidence".

     

    We have presented on this subject several times at the annual meeting  with considerable interest expressed.  Also we  have just published a book on the subject.   Our view of the decline in the field is that the early change process models failed to follow the scientific process. As a result, change interventions were not based on evidence of need for change. Result, 60 - 70 % failure rates.  Organizations do not like change projects to fail.

     

    I will send you a copy of the book if you are interested or you can order a free desk copy.

     

    Glenn

     

    Glenn H. Varney PhD



  • 13.  OD: Back from the Dead?

    Posted 04-06-2016 14:18

    Hi David and Colleagues

     

    This is a great conversation and one that is taking some different and useful directions.  Two particular directions come up for me - writing from the vantage point of Fielding, where OD has remained alive and well (even if a tad older than it used to be).

     

    One is the proposal for further research on the term OD in job adverts, attendant requirements/salaries, and how this plays out over time and context.  This would be useful knowledge for the field.  (I think so even taking your point, David, that the language of the adverts will leave open the question of humanistic values).  I'll float this idea in Fielding.

     

    Another direction is the issue raised by Bill and others.  It's an interesting notion -  that in the apparent death of OD may lie its transcendence.   Or, some transcendence anyway.

     

    New research could take on these and related questions ... eg by looking at OD as a term used in the world and by looking at relevant actors in the field (external and internal consultants) who call themselves something other than OD.  What do they do, how and why?  And, what's in a name... why do they name themselves as they do?


    Patrice


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    Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 3:47 AM
    To: ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: OD: Back from the Dead?

    Dear colleagues,

    This is fascinating, and of course vis-a-vis Ann-Clare's great piece, depends where you look. There is a kind of qualitative review in Human Relations, called 'The Past Present and Future of OD' here http://hum.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/07/04/0018726712450058 (forgive the plug)

    I think the answer to David's question boils down a bit to the old chestnuts 'what is OD'.If, for example we say a humanist ethos is a defining feature, then I suspect Terance Wolfe's point is well made, and it is not back in that form.

    Likewise OD in the terms of classic definitions- eg French and Bell, with a focus on culture, individuals groups and team, systematic, underpinned by action research, and the presence of a change agent and so on, I think is rare in that complete form still.

    However, I teach OD on MBAs as a kind of moment and/or field of work where much of what we now call change management comes together.  The elements of OD and approaches first derived by its pioneers are very common still. Many change processes sold by consultants or our colleagues can be seen to directly derive from action research, consciously or otherwise, or from the model first set out in Lippitt et al's Dynamics of Planned Change. There are still people who do action research in organizations.

    Likewise there is a lot of teambuilding about, couched in terms of culture and organizational effectiveness. Also influential (although I am not greatly impressed) is Thrift's work on Fast Capitalism, and within this the turn to 'soft management', that is the management of cultural/attitudinal aspects of the workforce. Thrift directly connects this back to Lewin, very shoddy history IMHO, but nonetheless, if it is real, this turn is underpinned, I would argue, with methods first combined in OD

    So, in a way we might even argue that the OD principle that its methods and techniques should not remain the property of its external experts, but should belong to and be used by those within the organization, might even have come to pass socially. If OD is nowhere these days, it is also everywhere. Maybe.

    Bill

    On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 5:58 AM, David Grant <david.grant@griffith.edu.au> wrote:

    Thanks John. I know OD did drop off the radar at many institutions – indeed I had to fight to name my PG course Org. Development and Change when I first put the proposal forward for approval at Sydney in 2000.

     

    It will be interesting to see if OD starts to re-emerge on teaching programs more widely and more explicitly. This may in part be driven by the HR accrediting bodies in the US, UK and Australia starting to push for Org. Change focused courses to be a core unit of study in order for HR programs to gain accreditation. It would be likely that at least some courses in Org. Change will consider OD.

     

    Cheers

     

    David

     

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    Interesting post David. I admit that OD has dropped off my radar screen to a large extent. While it is something that I discuss with my Exec MBA class, it does not seem to feature in student projects or dissertations. It seemed to me that it was in something of a downward cycle – not mentioned by employers nor prospective employees nor, increasingly from what I could see, by academics writing in the major journals. That said, I am only one data point so it would be interesting to see if others' experiences are different. It would also be good to pick up an understanding of what is happening around the world. If there is a resurgence in interest in OD, which there appears to be, is it particularly prominent in the US or Europe or Asia or Australasia? Or are there disciplines (e.g., healthcare?) that are driving this renewed interest? And as you point out, is it an OD that has morphed into something with qualitatively different characteristics, and if so, what are these, and why have they emerged?

     

    This strikes me as being an important issue for our profession. Thanks very much for raising it in this forum – would love to see this list develop as a medium for such debate.

    Cheers,

    John

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    To: "ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU" <ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU>
    Subject: OD: Back from the Dead?

     

    Is it just me or has there been a proliferation in the number of positions advertised over the last year or so with the term "Organization Development" in the title – especially by major firms?  It wasn't so long ago that such jobs were rarely, if ever, seen, suggesting OD was perceived as either irrelevant or outdated in contemporary organizations. It appeared that many of the well known OD diagnostic tools and interventions had been discarded or had been appropriated under the more generic term of "organisational change" and were being practiced by line managers; both of these scenarios making the need for in-house OD specialists redundant and minimalising the work opportunities for external OD consultants.  

    The increase in the number of OD jobs advertised is a phenomenon apparent in the US, Europe and the Asia-Pacific region. There also appears to have been an increasing interest in the area from professional bodies such as the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development in the UK, while several new OD-related communities of practice such as Do OD (for UK health professionals) appear to have sprung up.

     

    What's going on? Is OD back from the dead?  It's not clear. Is what is being expected of those in these new roles something that adheres to the traditional humanistic values of OD or is the resurgence simply linked to something like say, the war for talent, or a basic need for organisations to find new ways for HR functions to improve the bottom line? My sneaking suspicion is, to borrow a famous phrase, that "it's OD Jim, but not as we know it". And if what is now required is a form of genuine OD one has to wonder whether there is a sufficient pipeline of adequately trained talent available to practice it.

    I'm interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this. There will be a couple of sessions on the ODC program at this year's AoM meeting about the current state of, and future directions for, OD. The kind of issues I'm raising here will feed into these.

      

     




  • 14.  Back from the Dead?

    Posted 04-06-2016 18:31

    Thanks Patrice – The transcendence question is very interesting and encapsulates the thought provoking comments raised by Bill nicely (thanks Bill for those and for the reference to your article). 

     

    I'd be delighted if Fielding or others put in place some research that investigated who is using the term, what they mean by it etc.  It's long overdue judging by the comments we are getting here. Not least it might give us some ideas about where the field is headed and what we need to do as a division to ensure that we remain relevant to our key stakeholders.  

     

    Cheers

     

    David

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    Subject: OD: Back from the Dead?

     

    Hi David and Colleagues

     

    This is a great conversation and one that is taking some different and useful directions.  Two particular directions come up for me - writing from the vantage point of Fielding, where OD has remained alive and well (even if a tad older than it used to be).

     

    One is the proposal for further research on the term OD in job adverts, attendant requirements/salaries, and how this plays out over time and context.  This would be useful knowledge for the field.  (I think so even taking your point, David, that the language of the adverts will leave open the question of humanistic values).  I'll float this idea in Fielding.

     

    Another direction is the issue raised by Bill and others.  It's an interesting notion -  that in the apparent death of OD may lie its transcendence.   Or, some transcendence anyway.

     

    New research could take on these and related questions ... eg by looking at OD as a term used in the world and by looking at relevant actors in the field (external and internal consultants) who call themselves something other than OD.  What do they do, how and why?  And, what's in a name... why do they name themselves as they do?

     

    Patrice


    From: Organization Development and Change Listserv [ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] on behalf of Bill Cooke III [drbill.cooke@GMAIL.COM]
    Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 3:47 AM
    To: ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: OD: Back from the Dead?

    Dear colleagues,

    This is fascinating, and of course vis-a-vis Ann-Clare's great piece, depends where you look. There is a kind of qualitative review in Human Relations, called 'The Past Present and Future of OD' here http://hum.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/07/04/0018726712450058 (forgive the plug)

    I think the answer to David's question boils down a bit to the old chestnuts 'what is OD'.If, for example we say a humanist ethos is a defining feature, then I suspect Terance Wolfe's point is well made, and it is not back in that form.

    Likewise OD in the terms of classic definitions- eg French and Bell, with a focus on culture, individuals groups and team, systematic, underpinned by action research, and the presence of a change agent and so on, I think is rare in that complete form still.

    However, I teach OD on MBAs as a kind of moment and/or field of work where much of what we now call change management comes together.  The elements of OD and approaches first derived by its pioneers are very common still. Many change processes sold by consultants or our colleagues can be seen to directly derive from action research, consciously or otherwise, or from the model first set out in Lippitt et al's Dynamics of Planned Change. There are still people who do action research in organizations.

    Likewise there is a lot of teambuilding about, couched in terms of culture and organizational effectiveness. Also influential (although I am not greatly impressed) is Thrift's work on Fast Capitalism, and within this the turn to 'soft management', that is the management of cultural/attitudinal aspects of the workforce. Thrift directly connects this back to Lewin, very shoddy history IMHO, but nonetheless, if it is real, this turn is underpinned, I would argue, with methods first combined in OD

    So, in a way we might even argue that the OD principle that its methods and techniques should not remain the property of its external experts, but should belong to and be used by those within the organization, might even have come to pass socially. If OD is nowhere these days, it is also everywhere. Maybe.

    Bill

     

    On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 5:58 AM, David Grant <david.grant@griffith.edu.au> wrote:

    Thanks John. I know OD did drop off the radar at many institutions – indeed I had to fight to name my PG course Org. Development and Change when I first put the proposal forward for approval at Sydney in 2000.

     

    It will be interesting to see if OD starts to re-emerge on teaching programs more widely and more explicitly. This may in part be driven by the HR accrediting bodies in the US, UK and Australia starting to push for Org. Change focused courses to be a core unit of study in order for HR programs to gain accreditation. It would be likely that at least some courses in Org. Change will consider OD.

     

    Cheers

     

    David

     

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    From: Organization Development and Change Listserv [mailto:ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of AMIS John
    Sent: Tuesday, 5 April 2016 3:01 PM
    To: ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: OD: Back from the Dead?

     

    Interesting post David. I admit that OD has dropped off my radar screen to a large extent. While it is something that I discuss with my Exec MBA class, it does not seem to feature in student projects or dissertations. It seemed to me that it was in something of a downward cycle – not mentioned by employers nor prospective employees nor, increasingly from what I could see, by academics writing in the major journals. That said, I am only one data point so it would be interesting to see if others' experiences are different. It would also be good to pick up an understanding of what is happening around the world. If there is a resurgence in interest in OD, which there appears to be, is it particularly prominent in the US or Europe or Asia or Australasia? Or are there disciplines (e.g., healthcare?) that are driving this renewed interest? And as you point out, is it an OD that has morphed into something with qualitatively different characteristics, and if so, what are these, and why have they emerged?

     

    This strikes me as being an important issue for our profession. Thanks very much for raising it in this forum – would love to see this list develop as a medium for such debate.

    Cheers,

    John

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    To: "ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU" <ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU>
    Subject: OD: Back from the Dead?

     

    Is it just me or has there been a proliferation in the number of positions advertised over the last year or so with the term "Organization Development" in the title – especially by major firms?  It wasn't so long ago that such jobs were rarely, if ever, seen, suggesting OD was perceived as either irrelevant or outdated in contemporary organizations. It appeared that many of the well known OD diagnostic tools and interventions had been discarded or had been appropriated under the more generic term of "organisational change" and were being practiced by line managers; both of these scenarios making the need for in-house OD specialists redundant and minimalising the work opportunities for external OD consultants.  

    The increase in the number of OD jobs advertised is a phenomenon apparent in the US, Europe and the Asia-Pacific region. There also appears to have been an increasing interest in the area from professional bodies such as the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development in the UK, while several new OD-related communities of practice such as Do OD (for UK health professionals) appear to have sprung up.

     

    What's going on? Is OD back from the dead?  It's not clear. Is what is being expected of those in these new roles something that adheres to the traditional humanistic values of OD or is the resurgence simply linked to something like say, the war for talent, or a basic need for organisations to find new ways for HR functions to improve the bottom line? My sneaking suspicion is, to borrow a famous phrase, that "it's OD Jim, but not as we know it". And if what is now required is a form of genuine OD one has to wonder whether there is a sufficient pipeline of adequately trained talent available to practice it.

    I'm interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this. There will be a couple of sessions on the ODC program at this year's AoM meeting about the current state of, and future directions for, OD. The kind of issues I'm raising here will feed into these.

      

     

     



  • 15.  OD: Back from the Dead?

    Posted 04-06-2016 17:58
    This is truly an excellent discussion that I am finding very enlightening, for both what it says and what it doesn't say, and perhaps the latter is more important.

    As a full-time consultant and a part-time PhD student investigating change management in the Australian NFP sector using true Grounded Theory as the methodology, and currently in my final stages, having written a number papers associated with my PhD, 2 of which have been published and 2 about to be published, I think this discussion potentially reinforces the widening gap between academe and practice (A theme which I have noticed appear often in the Academy editorials). This was further highlighted in a detailed review undertaken by the Australian Federal Government back in 2012/2013 (I believe) in conjunction with the major domestic universities and the Australian Industry Group, that responded to the question of why Business Schools were possibly  becoming less relevant? The findings of that report were an interesting read.

    One of my recent papers that is about to be published questions the extent to which change management research and outcomes actually moved away from Lewin with anything really new, as distinct to some rebadging and fine-tuning, rather than breakthrough changes. This becomes even more obvious when one considers that Lewin's change 'model' was not the flat linear analysis that many suggest, given his acute focus on Action Research. When considering what AR is, the question of how it can be described as flat or linear has always been of interest to me. However in 95% of texts written for MBA student consumption, Lewin is discarded as being redundant, which I find somewhat surprising.

    As an Action Learning practitioner utilising an approach to AL that most closely mirrors Revans' original concepts, to solving organisational challenges whilst actively developing the skill sets and leadership potential of staff, I believe from a field work perspective, a wide-range of OD related processes are well and truly alive and, based on my activities here in Australia and the activities of my professional associates in the UK, feel that the reinvigoration that this discussion has highlighted, possibly recognises the gap that I spoke of earlier.

    I hope this brief entry into this discussion is of some use, and I look forward to reading of its ongoing development.

    Best Regards


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    On 7 Apr 2016, at 7:12 AM, Andre Avramchuk <aavramchuk@EMAIL.FIELDING.EDU> wrote:

    It's not just you, David!  

    I have witnessed the same trend, and I am curious as to how this year's AOM sessions will address this trend.  It is interesting to me how quickly (or NOT) academics respond to something that reoccurs in practice.  In a more sterile/generic preparation of PhDs in recent years, how do we, indeed, provide talent not only for the industry pipeline but also for the research that needs to continually feed and be fed by the profession...

    Are there any PhD programs that are truly tackling the "meat" of OD as currently practiced or conceived in practitioner conferences?  

    Are we doing a disservice to the profession by teaching our students to be pragmatic and go for the Organizational Behavior, Strategy, or another mainstream concentration?

    If OD is back from the dead, who amongst the living are going to champion its cause?

    Puzzled in Los Angeles,

    Andre



    On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 12:25 AM, David Grant <david.grant@griffith.edu.au> wrote:
    Is it just me or has there been a proliferation in the number of positions advertised over the last year or so with the term "Organization Development" in the title – especially by major firms?  It wasn't so long ago that such jobs were rarely, if ever, seen, suggesting OD was perceived as either irrelevant or outdated in contemporary organizations. It appeared that many of the well known OD diagnostic tools and interventions had been discarded or had been appropriated under the more generic term of "organisational change" and were being practiced by line managers; both of these scenarios making the need for in-house OD specialists redundant and minimalising the work opportunities for external OD consultants.

    The increase in the number of OD jobs advertised is a phenomenon apparent in the US, Europe and the Asia-Pacific region. There also appears to have been an increasing interest in the area from professional bodies such as the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development in the UK, while several new OD-related communities of practice such as Do OD (for UK health professionals) appear to have sprung up.

    What's going on? Is OD back from the dead?  It's not clear. Is what is being expected of those in these new roles something that adheres to the traditional humanistic values of OD or is the resurgence simply linked to something like say, the war for talent, or a basic need for organisations to find new ways for HR functions to improve the bottom line? My sneaking suspicion is, to borrow a famous phrase, that "it's OD Jim, but not as we know it". And if what is now required is a form of genuine OD one has to wonder whether there is a sufficient pipeline of adequately trained talent available to practice it.

    I'm interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this. There will be a couple of sessions on the ODC program at this year's AoM meeting about the current state of, and future directions for, OD. The kind of issues I'm raising here will feed into these.




  • 16.  OD: Back from the Dead?

    Posted 04-07-2016 18:02

    Glad you're enjoying the discussion David and thanks for engaging with it.

     

    Yours is an interesting slant on all this...

     

    If the resurgence, especially among large enterprises and professional bodies, are they looking for those educated / practiced in OD along the lines you are advocating or for something else.  I ask this not to widen the practice-academic divide that you refer to, but to narrow it. Without being clear on what exactly industry are now looking for, how do we  address their needs and ensure our relevance? As a few of the earlier posts have indicated, it may also be that a wide range of OD related processes such as the ones you mention are being sought, but they are not always being practiced in the ways that they were envisaged or with their original intent...


    Cheers

     

    David

     

     

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    Griffith Business School
    Griffith University | Nathan campus | QLD 4111 | Business 1 (N50) Room 0.09
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    This is truly an excellent discussion that I am finding very enlightening, for both what it says and what it doesn't say, and perhaps the latter is more important.

     

    As a full-time consultant and a part-time PhD student investigating change management in the Australian NFP sector using true Grounded Theory as the methodology, and currently in my final stages, having written a number papers associated with my PhD, 2 of which have been published and 2 about to be published, I think this discussion potentially reinforces the widening gap between academe and practice (A theme which I have noticed appear often in the Academy editorials). This was further highlighted in a detailed review undertaken by the Australian Federal Government back in 2012/2013 (I believe) in conjunction with the major domestic universities and the Australian Industry Group, that responded to the question of why Business Schools were possibly  becoming less relevant? The findings of that report were an interesting read.

     

    One of my recent papers that is about to be published questions the extent to which change management research and outcomes actually moved away from Lewin with anything really new, as distinct to some rebadging and fine-tuning, rather than breakthrough changes. This becomes even more obvious when one considers that Lewin's change 'model' was not the flat linear analysis that many suggest, given his acute focus on Action Research. When considering what AR is, the question of how it can be described as flat or linear has always been of interest to me. However in 95% of texts written for MBA student consumption, Lewin is discarded as being redundant, which I find somewhat surprising.

     

    As an Action Learning practitioner utilising an approach to AL that most closely mirrors Revans' original concepts, to solving organisational challenges whilst actively developing the skill sets and leadership potential of staff, I believe from a field work perspective, a wide-range of OD related processes are well and truly alive and, based on my activities here in Australia and the activities of my professional associates in the UK, feel that the reinvigoration that this discussion has highlighted, possibly recognises the gap that I spoke of earlier.

     

    I hope this brief entry into this discussion is of some use, and I look forward to reading of its ongoing development.

     

    Best Regards



     

    David Rosenbaum 

    PhD Scholar (ACU), MBA (UNE), Grad Cert Mgmt (UNE), Dip Bus Stud (Monash), GAICD, Cert IV (Training & Assessment), FCPA, FAIM, ALFA, MRMIA, ALARA

     

    Principal

    OPTIMUM NFP

     

     

    Senior Consultant 

    Head of Relationship Management & Programme Delivery for Australia

    ACTION LEARNING INTERNATIONAL INC.

     

     

     

    Tel: (02) 9181 1014          Mob: 0411 744 911


    On 7 Apr 2016, at 7:12 AM, Andre Avramchuk <aavramchuk@EMAIL.FIELDING.EDU> wrote:

    It's not just you, David!  

     

    I have witnessed the same trend, and I am curious as to how this year's AOM sessions will address this trend.  It is interesting to me how quickly (or NOT) academics respond to something that reoccurs in practice.  In a more sterile/generic preparation of PhDs in recent years, how do we, indeed, provide talent not only for the industry pipeline but also for the research that needs to continually feed and be fed by the profession...

     

    Are there any PhD programs that are truly tackling the "meat" of OD as currently practiced or conceived in practitioner conferences?  

     

    Are we doing a disservice to the profession by teaching our students to be pragmatic and go for the Organizational Behavior, Strategy, or another mainstream concentration?

     

    If OD is back from the dead, who amongst the living are going to champion its cause?

     

    Puzzled in Los Angeles,

     

    Andre

     

     

     

    On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 12:25 AM, David Grant <david.grant@griffith.edu.au> wrote:

    Is it just me or has there been a proliferation in the number of positions advertised over the last year or so with the term "Organization Development" in the title – especially by major firms?  It wasn't so long ago that such jobs were rarely, if ever, seen, suggesting OD was perceived as either irrelevant or outdated in contemporary organizations. It appeared that many of the well known OD diagnostic tools and interventions had been discarded or had been appropriated under the more generic term of "organisational change" and were being practiced by line managers; both of these scenarios making the need for in-house OD specialists redundant and minimalising the work opportunities for external OD consultants.

    The increase in the number of OD jobs advertised is a phenomenon apparent in the US, Europe and the Asia-Pacific region. There also appears to have been an increasing interest in the area from professional bodies such as the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development in the UK, while several new OD-related communities of practice such as Do OD (for UK health professionals) appear to have sprung up.

    What's going on? Is OD back from the dead?  It's not clear. Is what is being expected of those in these new roles something that adheres to the traditional humanistic values of OD or is the resurgence simply linked to something like say, the war for talent, or a basic need for organisations to find new ways for HR functions to improve the bottom line? My sneaking suspicion is, to borrow a famous phrase, that "it's OD Jim, but not as we know it". And if what is now required is a form of genuine OD one has to wonder whether there is a sufficient pipeline of adequately trained talent available to practice it.

    I'm interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this. There will be a couple of sessions on the ODC program at this year's AoM meeting about the current state of, and future directions for, OD. The kind of issues I'm raising here will feed into these.

     



  • 17.  OD: Back from the Dead?

    Posted 04-07-2016 19:42
    Hello David, David, and Andre, 

    A lively discussion! 

    From a tech industry perspective (at least in the US), OD is a rare sighting in recent years, with notable exceptions at firms such as Google. This isn't to say that OD trained master's and doctorates aren't being hired, but it is to say that a comprehensive OD approach using evidence to baseline, diagnose, recommend, and implement a systematic change management strategy seems to be relatively rare. Tech firms are high-velocity dynamic environments, and as such, are often volatile places to work. OD when conceived as a system-level of change endeavor, takes time – at least that's been my experience as a practitioner. I don't often see a lot of patience in the senior management teams to have a far view. In short, we are addicted to short-term fixes. 

    The second trend in recent years I've seen is locating OD within HR. As HR it of itself a staff role under a GA budget center (more often than not), HR is vulnerable to the cyclical downturns that squeeze headcount. In my last full-time job as the chief of staff for the chief development officer, we had layoffs pretty frequently. It's hard to argue with a quarterly numbers driven-team and board of directors that OD staff should stay while cutting sales, R&D, or other profit centers. You all know this story all too well. Penny wise and pound foolish, right?

    But, OD is not dead! OD is an idea ripe for a resurgence of academic and practitioner interest, but not as it was. What gets me excited about OD is looking at OD from the lens of strategy and company transformation. 

    In my field of study, I looked at organizational resiliency through the lens of dynamic capabilities and innovation. I focused on actions at the level of individual R&D leaders, and their "competencies" as micro-level leader behaviors to affect dynamic capabilities (sensing / seizing / and transforming). This is a promising venue for future research, and is only one example of several. 

    To be sure, this is a multi-level problem. OD processes and routines could and should become a core set of "microfoundations" that allow leaders to adapt to strategic change in the market. OD needs to come out of the shadows of staff functions that compete for sibling resources (compensation, employee relations, benefits, talent management, etc.) and needs to develop as a discipline within a profit center function. I find the connection to strategy pretty straightforward. 

    In all fairness, practitioner-scholars care less about academic boundaries, which makes us a bit renegade – I can't imagine a strategy purist taking this conversation too seriously... but this forum is the intersection of several streams of inquiry and research scholarship, so why wouldn't this group take up the mantle of where OD is going, should go, and take it there? 

    My 2 cents!

    Lori


    Lori D. Kendall, Ph.D.
    DM Fellow, Fowler Center for Sustainable Value 
    Weatherhead School of Management
    Case Western Reserve University

    ******************

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    From: Organization Development and Change Listserv <ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU> on behalf of David Grant <david.grant@GRIFFITH.EDU.AU>
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    Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 6:02 PM
    To: <ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU>
    Subject: Re: OD: Back from the Dead?

    Glad you're enjoying the discussion David and thanks for engaging with it.

     

    Yours is an interesting slant on all this...

     

    If the resurgence, especially among large enterprises and professional bodies, are they looking for those educated / practiced in OD along the lines you are advocating or for something else.  I ask this not to widen the practice-academic divide that you refer to, but to narrow it. Without being clear on what exactly industry are now looking for, how do we  address their needs and ensure our relevance? As a few of the earlier posts have indicated, it may also be that a wide range of OD related processes such as the ones you mention are being sought, but they are not always being practiced in the ways that they were envisaged or with their original intent...


    Cheers

     

    David

     

     

    Professor David Grant | Pro Vice Chancellor (Business)

    Griffith Business School
    Griffith University | Nathan campus | QLD 4111 | Business 1 (N50) Room 0.09
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    From: Organization Development and Change Listserv [mailto:ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of David Rosenbaum
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    Subject: Re: OD: Back from the Dead?

     

    This is truly an excellent discussion that I am finding very enlightening, for both what it says and what it doesn't say, and perhaps the latter is more important.

     

    As a full-time consultant and a part-time PhD student investigating change management in the Australian NFP sector using true Grounded Theory as the methodology, and currently in my final stages, having written a number papers associated with my PhD, 2 of which have been published and 2 about to be published, I think this discussion potentially reinforces the widening gap between academe and practice (A theme which I have noticed appear often in the Academy editorials). This was further highlighted in a detailed review undertaken by the Australian Federal Government back in 2012/2013 (I believe) in conjunction with the major domestic universities and the Australian Industry Group, that responded to the question of why Business Schools were possibly  becoming less relevant? The findings of that report were an interesting read.

     

    One of my recent papers that is about to be published questions the extent to which change management research and outcomes actually moved away from Lewin with anything really new, as distinct to some rebadging and fine-tuning, rather than breakthrough changes. This becomes even more obvious when one considers that Lewin's change 'model' was not the flat linear analysis that many suggest, given his acute focus on Action Research. When considering what AR is, the question of how it can be described as flat or linear has always been of interest to me. However in 95% of texts written for MBA student consumption, Lewin is discarded as being redundant, which I find somewhat surprising.

     

    As an Action Learning practitioner utilising an approach to AL that most closely mirrors Revans' original concepts, to solving organisational challenges whilst actively developing the skill sets and leadership potential of staff, I believe from a field work perspective, a wide-range of OD related processes are well and truly alive and, based on my activities here in Australia and the activities of my professional associates in the UK, feel that the reinvigoration that this discussion has highlighted, possibly recognises the gap that I spoke of earlier.

     

    I hope this brief entry into this discussion is of some use, and I look forward to reading of its ongoing development.

     

    Best Regards



     

    David Rosenbaum 

    PhD Scholar (ACU), MBA (UNE), Grad Cert Mgmt (UNE), Dip Bus Stud (Monash), GAICD, Cert IV (Training & Assessment), FCPA, FAIM, ALFA, MRMIA, ALARA

     

    Principal

    OPTIMUM NFP

     

     

    Senior Consultant 

    Head of Relationship Management & Programme Delivery for Australia

    ACTION LEARNING INTERNATIONAL INC.

     

     

     

    Tel: (02) 9181 1014          Mob: 0411 744 911


    On 7 Apr 2016, at 7:12 AM, Andre Avramchuk <aavramchuk@EMAIL.FIELDING.EDU> wrote:

    It's not just you, David!  

     

    I have witnessed the same trend, and I am curious as to how this year's AOM sessions will address this trend.  It is interesting to me how quickly (or NOT) academics respond to something that reoccurs in practice.  In a more sterile/generic preparation of PhDs in recent years, how do we, indeed, provide talent not only for the industry pipeline but also for the research that needs to continually feed and be fed by the profession...

     

    Are there any PhD programs that are truly tackling the "meat" of OD as currently practiced or conceived in practitioner conferences?  

     

    Are we doing a disservice to the profession by teaching our students to be pragmatic and go for the Organizational Behavior, Strategy, or another mainstream concentration?

     

    If OD is back from the dead, who amongst the living are going to champion its cause?

     

    Puzzled in Los Angeles,

     

    Andre

     

     

     

    On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 12:25 AM, David Grant <david.grant@griffith.edu.au> wrote:

    Is it just me or has there been a proliferation in the number of positions advertised over the last year or so with the term "Organization Development" in the title – especially by major firms?  It wasn't so long ago that such jobs were rarely, if ever, seen, suggesting OD was perceived as either irrelevant or outdated in contemporary organizations. It appeared that many of the well known OD diagnostic tools and interventions had been discarded or had been appropriated under the more generic term of "organisational change" and were being practiced by line managers; both of these scenarios making the need for in-house OD specialists redundant and minimalising the work opportunities for external OD consultants.

    The increase in the number of OD jobs advertised is a phenomenon apparent in the US, Europe and the Asia-Pacific region. There also appears to have been an increasing interest in the area from professional bodies such as the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development in the UK, while several new OD-related communities of practice such as Do OD (for UK health professionals) appear to have sprung up.

    What's going on? Is OD back from the dead?  It's not clear. Is what is being expected of those in these new roles something that adheres to the traditional humanistic values of OD or is the resurgence simply linked to something like say, the war for talent, or a basic need for organisations to find new ways for HR functions to improve the bottom line? My sneaking suspicion is, to borrow a famous phrase, that "it's OD Jim, but not as we know it". And if what is now required is a form of genuine OD one has to wonder whether there is a sufficient pipeline of adequately trained talent available to practice it.

    I'm interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this. There will be a couple of sessions on the ODC program at this year's AoM meeting about the current state of, and future directions for, OD. The kind of issues I'm raising here will feed into these.

     



  • 18.  OD: Back from the Dead?

    Posted 04-09-2016 21:54

    Thanks Lori!

     

    That's a very interesting and energising analysis of where OD is at the moment.

     

    You're absolutely right that the division should be considering: where OD is going and should go, and be helping to take it there.

     

    I agree that much of the resurgence is coming via the HR field (professional HR bodies are increasing requiring OD in order for institutions to achieve accreditation and members to gain membership). And your idea that we should seek to establish OD as a transformative set of micro foundations that assist organisations in reaching strategic objectives would be compelling to some.

     

    I'm also intrigued by your take on the tech industry and OD. It would be interesting to see if this bears out in any study of OD and where it is going – several colleagues who have responded to this post have indicated that they might very well do such a study.

     

    Cheers


    David

     

    Professor David Grant | Pro Vice Chancellor (Business)

    Griffith Business School
    Griffith University | Nathan campus | QLD 4111 | Business 1 (N50) Room 0.09
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    From: Organization Development and Change Listserv [mailto:ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lori D. Kendall
    Sent: Friday, April 8, 2016 9:42 AM
    To: ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: OD: Back from the Dead?

     

    Hello David, David, and Andre, 

     

    A lively discussion! 

     

    From a tech industry perspective (at least in the US), OD is a rare sighting in recent years, with notable exceptions at firms such as Google. This isn't to say that OD trained master's and doctorates aren't being hired, but it is to say that a comprehensive OD approach using evidence to baseline, diagnose, recommend, and implement a systematic change management strategy seems to be relatively rare. Tech firms are high-velocity dynamic environments, and as such, are often volatile places to work. OD when conceived as a system-level of change endeavor, takes time – at least that's been my experience as a practitioner. I don't often see a lot of patience in the senior management teams to have a far view. In short, we are addicted to short-term fixes. 

     

    The second trend in recent years I've seen is locating OD within HR. As HR it of itself a staff role under a GA budget center (more often than not), HR is vulnerable to the cyclical downturns that squeeze headcount. In my last full-time job as the chief of staff for the chief development officer, we had layoffs pretty frequently. It's hard to argue with a quarterly numbers driven-team and board of directors that OD staff should stay while cutting sales, R&D, or other profit centers. You all know this story all too well. Penny wise and pound foolish, right?

     

    But, OD is not dead! OD is an idea ripe for a resurgence of academic and practitioner interest, but not as it was. What gets me excited about OD is looking at OD from the lens of strategy and company transformation. 

     

    In my field of study, I looked at organizational resiliency through the lens of dynamic capabilities and innovation. I focused on actions at the level of individual R&D leaders, and their "competencies" as micro-level leader behaviors to affect dynamic capabilities (sensing / seizing / and transforming). This is a promising venue for future research, and is only one example of several. 

     

    To be sure, this is a multi-level problem. OD processes and routines could and should become a core set of "microfoundations" that allow leaders to adapt to strategic change in the market. OD needs to come out of the shadows of staff functions that compete for sibling resources (compensation, employee relations, benefits, talent management, etc.) and needs to develop as a discipline within a profit center function. I find the connection to strategy pretty straightforward. 

     

    In all fairness, practitioner-scholars care less about academic boundaries, which makes us a bit renegade – I can't imagine a strategy purist taking this conversation too seriously... but this forum is the intersection of several streams of inquiry and research scholarship, so why wouldn't this group take up the mantle of where OD is going, should go, and take it there? 

     

    My 2 cents!

     

    Lori

     

     

    Lori D. Kendall, Ph.D.

    DM Fellow, Fowler Center for Sustainable Value 

    Weatherhead School of Management

    Case Western Reserve University

     

    ******************

     

    +1.415.254.0964 (mobile)

    SKYPE: lorikendall

    FACETIME: lorikendall999

     

     

    From: Organization Development and Change Listserv <ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU> on behalf of David Grant <david.grant@GRIFFITH.EDU.AU>
    Reply-To: Organization Development and Change Listserv <ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU>
    Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 6:02 PM
    To: <ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU>
    Subject: Re: OD: Back from the Dead?

     

    Glad you're enjoying the discussion David and thanks for engaging with it.

     

    Yours is an interesting slant on all this...

     

    If the resurgence, especially among large enterprises and professional bodies, are they looking for those educated / practiced in OD along the lines you are advocating or for something else.  I ask this not to widen the practice-academic divide that you refer to, but to narrow it. Without being clear on what exactly industry are now looking for, how do we  address their needs and ensure our relevance? As a few of the earlier posts have indicated, it may also be that a wide range of OD related processes such as the ones you mention are being sought, but they are not always being practiced in the ways that they were envisaged or with their original intent...


    Cheers

     

    David

     

     

    Professor David Grant | Pro Vice Chancellor (Business)

    Griffith Business School
    Griffith University | Nathan campus | QLD 4111 | Business 1 (N50) Room 0.09
    T +61 7 373 53875 | F +61 7 373 55466 | E david.grant@griffith.edu.au

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    From: Organization Development and Change Listserv [mailto:ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of David Rosenbaum
    Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2016 7:58 AM
    To: ODC-L@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: OD: Back from the Dead?

     

    This is truly an excellent discussion that I am finding very enlightening, for both what it says and what it doesn't say, and perhaps the latter is more important.

     

    As a full-time consultant and a part-time PhD student investigating change management in the Australian NFP sector using true Grounded Theory as the methodology, and currently in my final stages, having written a number papers associated with my PhD, 2 of which have been published and 2 about to be published, I think this discussion potentially reinforces the widening gap between academe and practice (A theme which I have noticed appear often in the Academy editorials). This was further highlighted in a detailed review undertaken by the Australian Federal Government back in 2012/2013 (I believe) in conjunction with the major domestic universities and the Australian Industry Group, that responded to the question of why Business Schools were possibly  becoming less relevant? The findings of that report were an interesting read.

     

    One of my recent papers that is about to be published questions the extent to which change management research and outcomes actually moved away from Lewin with anything really new, as distinct to some rebadging and fine-tuning, rather than breakthrough changes. This becomes even more obvious when one considers that Lewin's change 'model' was not the flat linear analysis that many suggest, given his acute focus on Action Research. When considering what AR is, the question of how it can be described as flat or linear has always been of interest to me. However in 95% of texts written for MBA student consumption, Lewin is discarded as being redundant, which I find somewhat surprising.

     

    As an Action Learning practitioner utilising an approach to AL that most closely mirrors Revans' original concepts, to solving organisational challenges whilst actively developing the skill sets and leadership potential of staff, I believe from a field work perspective, a wide-range of OD related processes are well and truly alive and, based on my activities here in Australia and the activities of my professional associates in the UK, feel that the reinvigoration that this discussion has highlighted, possibly recognises the gap that I spoke of earlier.

     

    I hope this brief entry into this discussion is of some use, and I look forward to reading of its ongoing development.

     

    Best Regards

     

     

    David Rosenbaum 

    PhD Scholar (ACU), MBA (UNE), Grad Cert Mgmt (UNE), Dip Bus Stud (Monash), GAICD, Cert IV (Training & Assessment), FCPA, FAIM, ALFA, MRMIA, ALARA

     

    Principal

    OPTIMUM NFP

     

     

    Senior Consultant 

    Head of Relationship Management & Programme Delivery for Australia

    ACTION LEARNING INTERNATIONAL INC.

     

     

     

    Tel: (02) 9181 1014          Mob: 0411 744 911


    On 7 Apr 2016, at 7:12 AM, Andre Avramchuk <aavramchuk@EMAIL.FIELDING.EDU> wrote:

    It's not just you, David!  

     

    I have witnessed the same trend, and I am curious as to how this year's AOM sessions will address this trend.  It is interesting to me how quickly (or NOT) academics respond to something that reoccurs in practice.  In a more sterile/generic preparation of PhDs in recent years, how do we, indeed, provide talent not only for the industry pipeline but also for the research that needs to continually feed and be fed by the profession...

     

    Are there any PhD programs that are truly tackling the "meat" of OD as currently practiced or conceived in practitioner conferences?  

     

    Are we doing a disservice to the profession by teaching our students to be pragmatic and go for the Organizational Behavior, Strategy, or another mainstream concentration?

     

    If OD is back from the dead, who amongst the living are going to champion its cause?

     

    Puzzled in Los Angeles,

     

    Andre

     

     

     

    On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 12:25 AM, David Grant <david.grant@griffith.edu.au> wrote:

    Is it just me or has there been a proliferation in the number of positions advertised over the last year or so with the term "Organization Development" in the title – especially by major firms?  It wasn't so long ago that such jobs were rarely, if ever, seen, suggesting OD was perceived as either irrelevant or outdated in contemporary organizations. It appeared that many of the well known OD diagnostic tools and interventions had been discarded or had been appropriated under the more generic term of "organisational change" and were being practiced by line managers; both of these scenarios making the need for in-house OD specialists redundant and minimalising the work opportunities for external OD consultants.

    The increase in the number of OD jobs advertised is a phenomenon apparent in the US, Europe and the Asia-Pacific region. There also appears to have been an increasing interest in the area from professional bodies such as the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development in the UK, while several new OD-related communities of practice such as Do OD (for UK health professionals) appear to have sprung up.

    What's going on? Is OD back from the dead?  It's not clear. Is what is being expected of those in these new roles something that adheres to the traditional humanistic values of OD or is the resurgence simply linked to something like say, the war for talent, or a basic need for organisations to find new ways for HR functions to improve the bottom line? My sneaking suspicion is, to borrow a famous phrase, that "it's OD Jim, but not as we know it". And if what is now required is a form of genuine OD one has to wonder whether there is a sufficient pipeline of adequately trained talent available to practice it.

    I'm interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this. There will be a couple of sessions on the ODC program at this year's AoM meeting about the current state of, and future directions for, OD. The kind of issues I'm raising here will feed into these.

     



  • 19.  OD: Back from the Dead?

    Posted 04-07-2016 18:17

    Thanks for your thoughts Andre

     

    I guess the issue of PhDs and of scholarship that informs and is informed by practice is one that has been flagged  by others in the is conversation. That is an important tradition within OD, but as you and others suggest it is one that is under threat if OD is not being taught and promoted widely on business programs.

     

    Cheers


    David

     

     

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    It's not just you, David!  

     

    I have witnessed the same trend, and I am curious as to how this year's AOM sessions will address this trend.  It is interesting to me how quickly (or NOT) academics respond to something that reoccurs in practice.  In a more sterile/generic preparation of PhDs in recent years, how do we, indeed, provide talent not only for the industry pipeline but also for the research that needs to continually feed and be fed by the profession...

     

    Are there any PhD programs that are truly tackling the "meat" of OD as currently practiced or conceived in practitioner conferences?  

     

    Are we doing a disservice to the profession by teaching our students to be pragmatic and go for the Organizational Behavior, Strategy, or another mainstream concentration?

     

    If OD is back from the dead, who amongst the living are going to champion its cause?

     

    Puzzled in Los Angeles,

     

    Andre

     

     

     

    On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 12:25 AM, David Grant <david.grant@griffith.edu.au> wrote:

    Is it just me or has there been a proliferation in the number of positions advertised over the last year or so with the term "Organization Development" in the title – especially by major firms?  It wasn't so long ago that such jobs were rarely, if ever, seen, suggesting OD was perceived as either irrelevant or outdated in contemporary organizations. It appeared that many of the well known OD diagnostic tools and interventions had been discarded or had been appropriated under the more generic term of "organisational change" and were being practiced by line managers; both of these scenarios making the need for in-house OD specialists redundant and minimalising the work opportunities for external OD consultants.

    The increase in the number of OD jobs advertised is a phenomenon apparent in the US, Europe and the Asia-Pacific region. There also appears to have been an increasing interest in the area from professional bodies such as the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development in the UK, while several new OD-related communities of practice such as Do OD (for UK health professionals) appear to have sprung up.

    What's going on? Is OD back from the dead?  It's not clear. Is what is being expected of those in these new roles something that adheres to the traditional humanistic values of OD or is the resurgence simply linked to something like say, the war for talent, or a basic need for organisations to find new ways for HR functions to improve the bottom line? My sneaking suspicion is, to borrow a famous phrase, that "it's OD Jim, but not as we know it". And if what is now required is a form of genuine OD one has to wonder whether there is a sufficient pipeline of adequately trained talent available to practice it.

    I'm interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this. There will be a couple of sessions on the ODC program at this year's AoM meeting about the current state of, and future directions for, OD. The kind of issues I'm raising here will feed into these.